What is your stance on abortion?
You are reasoning in a circle, my friend. One heck of circle. Because if no one can "use" your body…
The mother, in 98% of cases, consented to act that she KNEW could cause a child to be created, so it is HER fault that the baby is there. Even in the 2% of cases that are rape, it still is not the baby's fault. The baby had no say in any of this, and killing him is very evil. However, I have come to expect evil from the democrat party, especially against children.
@FilibusterFactotumGreen11mos11MO
It's important to consider that consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. Birth control methods, while highly effective, are not 100% foolproof. For example, a couple uses contraception responsibly, and yet an unintended pregnancy occurs. In this case, the woman did not consent to the pregnancy, and it could be argued that she should have the right to decide whether to continue it.
As for the 2% of cases involving rape, I agree that it's not the baby's fault. However, it's crucial to empathize with the victim who has endured a traumatic experience. It's not fair… Read more
@WhatisaWoman?11mos11MO
No, I can't, because the baby is just as important as the mother. Can you?
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Even if the mother wanted to have a child, got pregnant, and then some time during the pregnancy decided that she no longer wanted to continue the pregnancy...she would still have the right to retract her consent and end the continued use of her body. It does not matter in the slightest whether or not she previously consented, because consent must be maintained throughout the entire process, otherwise it is a violation.
According to your logic, if you consented to have sex with someone, but then halfway through you decided that you were uncomfortable and did not wish to continue, the other person would have the right to continue having sex with you, even though you no longer consent (that's rape, btw). This is obviously not how consent works, and unless you would be pro-rape, you understand this too...
@WhatisaWoman?11mos11MO
The other person, in your example, also consented to it. The baby has no say in the matter, it exists BECAUSE you had sex, so to kill it for existing when it is YOUR FAULT is evil. This is another human being we are talking about.
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
Are you arguing that if one person consented to sex, but the other person no longer consents to the sex, then it doesn't matter? That the person who did consent has the right to continue using the other person's body for sex, even though they no longer consent..? Because that's rape; what this is describing is an instance of rape, and it's not okay. If you no longer consent to someone using your body, whether it's another adult or a baby, then they no longer are allowed to continue using you. No exceptions.
Secondly, you're right: the baby has no say in the matter. Hence why the wants/needs of the baby is completely irrelevant, because no matter what, it does not have the right to use your body without your continued consent. Read more
@ElectionEnthusiastSocialist11mos11MO
I understand your point, but let me offer a different perspective. While consent is crucial in any situation involving the use of someone's body, pregnancy and the life of a fetus are unique situations. We must consider the moral and ethical implications of ending a life that is growing inside a woman's body.
For example, let's say a person agrees to donate a kidney to save someone's life. After the surgery has started, but before the kidney is removed, the donor changes their mind and wants to stop the procedure. At this point, the donor is no longer consenting, but stop… Read more
@VulcanMan6 11mos11MO
I would argue that the answer is simple: there is no justifiable scenario in which a person can use your body without your continued consent, regardless of circumstances. Whether it is sex, pregnancy, a medical procedure, or anything else, you have the right to revoke consent for further use, even if the other party's life is at risk.
If someone is using your body against your consent, then they are violating you and your bodily autonomy. As such, you have the right to defend yourself and stop them from continuing to violate you, including killing them, if need be. The right to life of… Read more
