Right-wing people support economic liberty...
Again, I already explained to you that I believe "the right" is fundamentally ANTI-economic liberty, so obviously this buzzword claim is not inherent or objective on its own.
By economic liberty, I mean a laissez-faire (from French Laissez Nous Faire, or Leave Us Alone) system wherein individuals are free to make economic transactions and trade with one another without any regulation, or any form of plunder, legal (taxation) or illegal (theft), with a system of written property deeds and land titles, a Gold-backed, uninflatible currency, no central banking, and enforcement of the terms of contracts.
A big problem is that your interpretation of economic liberty doesn't even apply to all right-wing ideologies. If this is genuinely how you define economic liberty, then your initial claim that "right wing people support economic liberty" already excludes every right-wing ideology that isn't YOUR hyper-specific branch of Anarcho-Capitalism. In fact, nearly every other right-wing ideology besides yours is fine with one or more of those things, and disagrees with one or more of those other things. Your requirements are so overly-specific that you've actually moved the criteria enough that the majority of right-wingers are excluded with your definition...which, along with the fact that I would definitely describe economic liberty differently, makes it a bad basis for "the right".
For example, I would argue that "liberty" is the state of being free from the imposed decisions of a hierarchical authority, hence "economic liberty" is the state of being free from the imposed economic decisions of a hierarchical authority. According to MY interpretation of economic liberty, right-wing ideologies are fundamentally AGAINST economic liberty. Additionally, my interpretation of economic liberty ALSO excludes some left-wing ideologies, which is why I would disagree with your initial premise that "economic liberty"… Read more
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Again, I already explained to you that I believe "the right" is fundamentally ANTI-economic liberty, so obviously this buzzword claim is not inherent or objective on its own.
And I offered a different perspective. Is that not allowed...?
A big problem is that your interpretation of economic liberty doesn't even apply to all right-wing ideologies. If this is genuinely how you define economic liberty, then your initial claim that "right wing people support economic liberty" already excludes every right-wing ideology that isn't YOUR hyper-specific branch of Anarcho-Ca… Read more
@VulcanMan6 4mos4MO
And I offered a different perspective. Is that not allowed...?
Right, that's the point: you and I have fundamentally different interpretations of what "economic liberty" means, hence why I argued that it is not a good metric of determining a left or right ideology, since both sides can claim they believe in it and the other doesn't. It was a counter to your previous assertion that economic liberty is a right-wing value/belief. Obviously it is something else that is a determining factor...
I'm not an Anarcho-Capitalist
Yea I think I confused you with another… Read more
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but you did say: "Right-wing people support economic liberty but are in general more willing to see the government spy on its civilians via unconstitutional surveillance, and some rightists subscribe to an interventionist foreign police. Left-wing people support economic tyranny with a massive regulatory bureaucracy but are in general less willing to see the government spy on its civilians, and originally many supported a policy of peace and non-intervention, though sadly this has wavered away in recent years, especially under the current warmongering occupant of the White House..."… Read more
@VulcanMan6 3mos3MO
I have explained to you what I meant by "economic liberty" so there's no fallacy there, as I have defined my terms and you have defined yours. The true debate should be over why we believe economic liberty is what it is.
Yes that is quite literally the entire point I have been trying to make: our own interpretations of "economic liberty" are entirely subjective, and even largely antithetical to each other's, hence why it is not a useful term to claim categorizes left and right-wing ideological thought. We could both have logically sound reasons as to why we believ… Read more